Serpentine/Accessory belt failure on a very wet, dark MI road in the middle of nowhere...

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Longtrail

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2022
Posts
549
Reaction score
266
Location
Ann Arbor
If you just need the pulley, you can get a littens one from advance auto for $20 rather than the near $200 for the whole tensioner. I had a post a month or two ago about it, with part number.
Here it is:


I don't know yet if this is what I need, given the age/milage a new tension spring is probably not a bad idea!
 

itsaguything

Full Access Member
Joined
Mar 7, 2023
Posts
436
Reaction score
178
Location
Manotick, On, Canada
@Longtrail ,

Many here would disagree…. but I don’t pre-emptively replace any “component” of the vehicle unless it is explicitly called out in the maintenance schedule or, there has been reduced effectiveness…
Unless, you just want to overhaul the whole engine anyways.

For example, the water pump. If its operational now, why replace it??
Timing chains, sprockets and guides, if they are working well now, why replace them??
Generator (alternator).
Plugs, Brakes, the list goes on and on.

However, there are a few that ignore the maintenance schedule then, play musical parts.
The obvious - engine oil. Delaying on this leads to timing chain guide friction…
The often ignored - belts, coolant, brake fluid, power steering fluid, (and your favorite and mine, transmission, diff fluid, power transfer unit fluid.)

So, I keep the maintenance schedule simple:
Oil and filter every 5k kms
Air filters and brake fluid every 25k
All other fluids and filters every 50k
Plugs, coolant hoses, belts, every 100k.
And other components, battery included, as needed.
(hear a whir or squeak, see a drip, smell a strange smell, feel something amiss; inspired)

Not suggesting that this is the only approach…. but it seems to be a successful approach for me.
 

ktm525

Full Access Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2017
Posts
2,752
Reaction score
1,403
Location
alberta
It isn't that hard to remove the engine cover and bend an ear to listen for unusual noises while the engine is running. A few times a year doing this and things "shouldn't" sneak up on you. A quick visual check of the belt spring and fall and you be golden.
 

Longtrail

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2022
Posts
549
Reaction score
266
Location
Ann Arbor
The definition of "middle of nowhere" is no cell service. :) Always pack a quality coat and some good footwear..
It's all relative I guess! We had cell service; I have a quality coat and waterproof pants packed; no footwear though! I also have blankets and towels!... Having kids was the hardest part.
 

Longtrail

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2022
Posts
549
Reaction score
266
Location
Ann Arbor
@Longtrail ,

Many here would disagree…. but I don’t pre-emptively replace any “component” of the vehicle unless it is explicitly called out in the maintenance schedule or, there has been reduced effectiveness…
Unless, you just want to overhaul the whole engine anyways.

For example, the water pump. If its operational now, why replace it??
Timing chains, sprockets and guides, if they are working well now, why replace them??
Generator (alternator).
Plugs, Brakes, the list goes on and on.

However, there are a few that ignore the maintenance schedule then, play musical parts.
The obvious - engine oil. Delaying on this leads to timing chain guide friction…
The often ignored - belts, coolant, brake fluid, power steering fluid, (and your favorite and mine, transmission, diff fluid, power transfer unit fluid.)

So, I keep the maintenance schedule simple:
Oil and filter every 5k kms
Air filters and brake fluid every 25k
All other fluids and filters every 50k
Plugs, coolant hoses, belts, every 100k.
And other components, battery included, as needed.
(hear a whir or squeak, see a drip, smell a strange smell, feel something amiss; inspired)

Not suggesting that this is the only approach…. but it seems to be a successful approach for me.
I'll replace parts if I have it open, I know it's a failure point and it's a PIT to get back to the component; otherwise I agree with what you're saying. Bear in mind, I don't know the full history so I would rather be cautious.

Timing chains are making slight noise so I know it has to be done sometime, if I'm doing the crossovers then why not go a little further and do the whole job? I really don't want to go in there twice.

Done so far:
- Oil (it's due again)
- Transmission fluid - just :)
- Front diff
- Rear diff
- Transfer Case
- Suspension system
- Fixed the radio
- Brakes

Not done (given I'm at 100K miles these are on my mind)
- belts
- coolant
- brake fluid
- power steering fluid
- Plugs
- coolant hoses
- Crossovers
- Other things TBD while I'm in there doing chains, crossover's etc. (parts that are not easy to get to)

Most of the "Not done" list (except the power steering fluid and brake fluid) make sense to do at the same time and until the breakdown was my plan.
 

Longtrail

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2022
Posts
549
Reaction score
266
Location
Ann Arbor
I did a little lunch time exploration, here's the belt (it was wrapped around the crank pulleys):

1729012875675.png
1729012970791.png


Which appears to have knocked out some temperature sensor just below the thermostat (this has the potential to leak coolant so need to watch this):
1729013249362.png

And the idler pulley that's supposed to be behind the viscous fan pulley is completely not secured and rattling around back there (like the shaft or something broke)! I'll see if I can get this out later on. This looks to be the root cause of the failure!
1729013436377.png


1729013643454.png


I'm also getting more convinced that there's been a slight leak, guessing the water pump based on evidence and location of the fluid.
 

Latest posts

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
36,702
Posts
222,584
Members
30,876
Latest member
Ejp1989
Top