Purchased a 2012 Silver+Ebony HSE LUX last month here in Nth.CA. The sales guy didn't seem to know anything about the new paint prices(+$925 for everything except white+$0 and black+$425), so I didn't bring it up. I think it only applies to new builds going forward, as the sticker on mine didn't have any adds for the silver paint(+$950 according to the website). This vehicle just came in(was covered in plastic & being programmed). Am guessing it was a customer order that fell thru, but given the LR sales people's tendency to BS at every possible opportunity I will never truly know. Can't say too little about LR's salesmen ... they vary from uninformed to incompetent to unresourceful ... basically waiting for sales to come to them. Not what you hope for when you drop 60 large on a vehicle, but like my wife keeps telling me "just let it go". Between the sales people and the lack of cars on lots, I almost gave up on the LR4. But for this forum I would probably be in a Toyota Sequoia! So a big thanks to everyone here. With that in mind, here's my bit to help potential buyers. Firstly at the risk of stating the blooming obvious ... there are not many 2012 LR4s on the West Coast at present. As a result dealers are not hugely negotiable. My best guess is a "good deal" range is 500-2500 off MSRP depending on color & spec's. The high demand colors of Black & White appear to be the hardest to get discounts on(500-1000). Silver and maybe Sand seem to be next(1000-1500). Anything else is harder to move and is subject to more negotiability(1500-2500). These are only ballparks and things will vary by region and dealer, but I think this gives a good starting point. These numbers are based only on my experience with vehicles on lots, using info from the truth-challenged people who sell them, and not on special orders. If your dealer has to get a car from another dealer, expect to pay shipping costs(500-1500 depending on distance). This is particularly frustrating because LR &/or their dealers appear to have a low inventory policy for the US(perhaps because their margins are better in Asia). In addition, don't expect to be able to buy cars from dealers outside your region and drive/fly to get the car. Non-region dealers either won't sell to you, or will want you to pay more because they apparently get penalized 2-3% when they sell outside their region...aaarrhhh! Put your zip into the LRUSA website to see who is in your region(usually within ~50 miles). I wish you good luck, for as you can see you may need it, not to mention a good serving of patience

Cheers.