voice recognition issues with 06 LR3 w/o Nav

[cmb6s]

You got me to run out and take a quick look. I think the selection that you're talking about is simply under "Settings" and then "Language" in the on screen menu. I always thought that this was a selection for the language that the NAV system speaks back to you in, but after reading your post, I think it may be the opposite. So... I guess you could speak to the nav system in Spanish or German if you really wanted to?

Concerning my question about clearing the adaptation values... that was more directed at bbyer I guess. If the nav system really does learn and adapt based on your commands, there's got to be some way to wipe those adaptation values out, right?

 

[bbyer]

Denso GPS Voice Recognition software

I do not have a precise answer to the question of voice recognition software being either included or effective with regards to the Denso system we have.

The LR books are silent with regards to any hint of a learning ability, however everyone except the Queen speaks with an accent, hence voice recognition is not possible if the software does not have some learning capability.

Also the system speaks many languages and dialects, not just a few variations of English. I assume you have to have Japanese, Arabic or whatever software loaded to get at other languages as not all seem to be available just thru the NAV keys. I also noted the CCF that I use is limited to "Western" language choices but I know the system can handle much more.

It is interesting when one goggles Denso GPS Voice Recognition or some such phrase and researches what comes up.

You get a gaggle of Land Rover/Range Rover types grumbling, but also Ford, Toyota, Mercedes - everyone, so we are not alone.

Below is a quote from a LR pdf regarding our system and partially explains why our systems differ - NAV vs no Nav.

On vehicles without navigation system fitted the voice recognition software is held in the Transceiver Module (TM) and the microphone is hardwired directly into the TM.

On vehicles with navigation the voice recognition, software is held in the navigation computer and the microphone is wired directly into the navigation computer and the TM. Vehicles with only no navigation system will have a slightly reduced functionality compared with vehicles that have navigation fitted as well as the phone.

Below is an interesting link - it talks about the FFRR and the LR3 systems.

http://www.fullfatrr.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10672/DensoSat-Operation.pdf

 

[Houm_WA]

I wonder what those deltas are between NAV and no-NAV functionality. I think that you can adjust BOTH what the system speaks AND what it is looking for. Specifically it can be listening for a male or female.

 

[cmb6s]

Interesting. If the voice recognition software is stored in the navigation computer, I wonder if updating the NAV software would provide any better/improved voice recognition functionality? Or... I wonder if those folks with 2008 or 2009 MY LR3s have any fewer complaints than those of us with older MY cars.

 

[bbyer]

interesting thought

Interesting. If the voice recognition software is stored in the navigation computer, I wonder if updating the NAV software would provide any better/improved voice recognition functionality? Or... I wonder if those folks with 2008 or 2009 MY LR3s have any fewer complaints than those of us with older MY cars.

A couple of weeks back I got the Nav on the Move feature working.

If I understood what I did, I overwrote the existing software in the NAV with the HW_NAV1 software and then overwrote that Nav on the Move software will what I will call the NAV/Touch Screen software.

The NAV software number, or more correctly, the Front Entertainment Control Module or Touch Screen software that first showed to be in my NAV was YIE500040 and as I could not find YIE500040 to do the overwrite, I instead used the next closest number YIE500090. The good news was all worked when I was completed and I might add it was for me, not as simple as I make it sound. It probably took me 3 weeks of worry, (research is a nicer word), before I attempted it.

Looking back however, I wonder if I could have used a newer software such as YIE500190 and if I did, would it work, not work, be better, or worse?

As it is, I am happy as all seems to work OK. I did not have to reset anything re the voice recognition - well my voice dial phone numbers were gone but I think that was to do with the new D4 Bluetooth module install rather than the NAV on the Move update.

The voice was still British female, but I think that is a default but I sensed that the recognition was having more trouble than usual with my requests. As such, maybe it was having to relearn me, but again, that is just a guess.

Regardless, the idea of reflashing the NAV with a more current software number is an interesting thought. If the voice recognition does have learning capability and I think it does, and if the software I refer to is the voice recognition software, then one must presume that newer is better?

 

[cmb6s]

That is exciting! I had given up on this until GAP (hopefully) decided to add this to their list of "stuff" to accomplish. When I purchased my IID tool, I asked if this was possible and they told me that it was not at this time, but it was something they were looking at developing in the near future (but it may cost extra). I crossed my fingers hoping that they would indeed work on enabling Nav on the Move, but no luck thus far. Is there any chance that you could post some of the links to your resources? I would be very interested in more detail!

 

[bbyer]

bit of a back art yet

Below is about all there is I would say with reference to Nav on the Move and it is more a series of questions rather than solutions.

The mod is still a bit of a black art at this time as best I can tell - at least for the unwashed such as myself.

Any other links/articles I might have refer back to the Nanocom Evolution Genesis website and that is not much good for you, and they are basically questions/anguish as well.

Briefly, the procedure, and that is what it is, a procedure, requires two one hour flash sessions. It seems each download has about ten files within.

While you are waiting so to speak, take the time to get yourself at least a 25 amp power supply/battery charger; (CTEK makes a 25 amp combo.) Without being hooked up to power, you may be the owner of a 3 ton stationary beer can when one of the flashes hangs - and that will be a guarantee with no supplementary power to your 3.

Even with a power supply attached, learn how to unjam / unfreeze / unlock your electronic parking brake as it can engage and than not let go even when the flash itself is going well.

That is in part why I mention stationary beer can, but in my case, at least the engine started even if I could not go anywhere. I then had to learn the brake release procedure built into the Nanocom and I expect also in your GAP. This stuff is not for the faint hearted.

Replace the ***** with disco3DOTcoDOTuk - this blocking annoys me and helps no one!

http://www.**************/forum/topic103168.html


http://www.**************/forum/topic74474-180.html

 

[Houm_WA]

NAV on the move? You guys must mean after getting the new DVD or something....I still have the original DVD that came with my '05 and I can just the 1792 (or whatever) hack.

 

[bbyer]

same CD - new software - no hack

Best you keep your original CD as with the newer CD's, that 1792 hack got bypassed and now there is no hack once a newer CD is loaded.

What we are talking about is replacing the old software inside the NAV with newer software so that the input frozen "feature" when the vehicle is moving is not present. The mod works with the newer revised CD's as well.

We still have the warning upon Nav startup, but now one can input destinations and all else while the vehicle is moving. There is no difference in NAV operation between vehicle in motion or stopped.

The Nav mod is still in its infancy, and to my mind not particularly easy to implement relative to the 3 Blink signal light lane change feature or Clock on the Dash as per the newer 3's and 4's.

You need either a GAP, Faultmate or Nanocom Evolution programmer to implement the mods - well I guess with GAP, Nav on the Move is not quite there yet, but coming. As I said, it is not all that easy either with the programming or the implementation thereof.

 

[Houm_WA]

That's exactly why I've kept my original CD!