Surfrider77
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Just dumb luck I bought my 2013 V8 when I did. I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon! 
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Tough times ahead are a real possibilty for LR/RR purists. But exciting times are ahead for LR/RR. They are going to gain a whole new audience while retaining most of their current fans IMHO.
...My lead service rep has seen the info on the new Discovery. He couldn't show me pics or tell me when it would be available. But he described it as a longer, wider, taller version of the sport. With a cargo/seating area that retains the capabilities of the current LR4. That was all he would say.
From what I have read, Audi is using that same recipe to create the next Q7. Lower ground clearance, car platform that is lighter but far less rugged with zero offroad ability. And ugly:
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That's good info, thanks. So, hopefully that means fold flat seating at a minimum. Tailgate would be nice. I think somewhere they mentioned a stupid little ass tray that slides out for sitting on but that's not the same thing.
Oh, and the "design queue" of the asymmetrical rear window needs to be an actual asymmetrical window. What we have on the LR models is not only for looks. When I back into a parking space (I always back into my garage) having that additional visibility in the right, rear is very useful.
Me either. I think this is probably the Land Rover that I keep, depending on the Defender re-design.Just dumb luck I bought my 2013 V8 when I did. I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon!![]()
You and I have talked about this offline quite a bit and agree on things... What year Land Cruiser would you get? I still have a soft spot in my heart for the G.Retain "most" current fans? No, not at all. Will they gain more than the loose? Probably. , but they will certainly loose more of the people who thought they were awesome in terms of design during the years leading up to recently.
These new models pretty much suck in too many ways. They are either not tough enough or too goofy with only partial areas of great design. For example, the RRS is really a lot better inside than previously. Previously you just paid a lot more for what was basically an LR3, then 4. Too much inside was essentially just as crappy, just fine in reality, but also kind of crappy based on the price point. The NEw RRS is pretty darn slick in it's own right, finally.
The RR is nice as hell inside, beautiful outside, but too delicate in some ways compared to the mid 90's. The brake size has gotten totally out of hand such that totally stupid tires are all that will fit now.
FYI, simply making the brake rotors larger is a cheap way to improve braking, therefore I think it's such a huge joke on consumers who now can't really fully utilize the awesome capabilities simply due to goofy huge wheels an low profile tires.
There's nothing unclassy or unsexy in an 18" wheel with serious tires on a $120,000 vehicle out on the town after being out sightseeing along rough tracks for a day.
I've bought the 1996 Disco, then new Supercharged RR, then in the same year a 2004 Disco because I saw the design changing in a creepy way and found my favorite color combo in low miles, then a new 07 LR3.
I may get a 2013 LR4, but it will now be the newest Land Rover I ever buy hence forward which is sad considering what the brand presented itself as for so long. Most likely it will be Toyota Land Cruiser or Mercedes G in my future.
Retain "most" current fans? No, not at all. Will they gain more than the loose? Probably. , but they will certainly loose more of the people who thought they were awesome in terms of design during the years leading up to recently.
These new models pretty much suck in too many ways. They are either not tough enough or too goofy with only partial areas of great design. For example, the RRS is really a lot better inside than previously. Previously you just paid a lot more for what was basically an LR3, then 4. Too much inside was essentially just as crappy, just fine in reality, but also kind of crappy based on the price point. The NEw RRS is pretty darn slick in it's own right, finally.
The RR is nice as hell inside, beautiful outside, but too delicate in some ways compared to the mid 90's. The brake size has gotten totally out of hand such that totally stupid tires are all that will fit now.
FYI, simply making the brake rotors larger is a cheap way to improve braking, therefore I think it's such a huge joke on consumers who now can't really fully utilize the awesome capabilities simply due to goofy huge wheels an low profile tires.
There's nothing unclassy or unsexy in an 18" wheel with serious tires on a $120,000 vehicle out on the town after being out sightseeing along rough tracks for a day.
I've bought the 1996 Disco, then new Supercharged RR, then in the same year a 2004 Disco because I saw the design changing in a creepy way and found my favorite color combo in low miles, then a new 07 LR3.
I may get a 2013 LR4, but it will now be the newest Land Rover I ever buy hence forward which is sad considering what the brand presented itself as for so long. Most likely it will be Toyota Land Cruiser or Mercedes G in my future.