2013 LR4 - Transmission Sonnax Zip Kit Completed - The Results

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There are a ton of tiny parts. I bought everything and turned it over to my Indy. I forgot to order the new separator plate and had to go get one while it was disassembled. Definitely mid level to advanced job just based on the number of pieces and the stakes. You are supposed to use a new separator plate every time you crack it. Not sure how real that is but...
 

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If you can't find an indy for modern Rovers, find an indy who specializes in BMW transmission service as they all use the same transmissions.
 

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There are a ton of tiny parts. I bought everything and turned it over to my Indy. I forgot to order the new separator plate and had to go get one while it was disassembled. Definitely mid level to advanced job just based on the number of pieces and the stakes. You are supposed to use a new separator plate every time you crack it. Not sure how real that is but...
New separater plate was used. Mine was a063/b063.
I'm sure I just made a dumb mistake somwhere along the way. Unfortunately I just don't have the time or patience to do that messy job again.

If you can't find an indy for modern Rovers, find an indy who specializes in BMW transmission service as they all use the same transmissions.

Waiting on a LR indy shop to give me a better diagnosis. It was towed to them yesterday.
 
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Hey all.
I just did the Sonnax Zip Kit on my 2013 LR4 with the ZF6 HP28. Per this thread, I, of course, ordered the wrong separator plate and had time to film this info because it was not obvious from my research I had an A063 vs A065. Hope it helps those who come after me.
A few other points about this job:
-Read the instructions 10x before you start.
-make sure the upper side is down when you separate the bodies
-do the o-rings for the solenoids one at a time and match them exactly to one from the 500 it comes with.
-also attaching a pic because the bolts are different than the excellent aston martin ZF6 blog posts form the LR4 pan swap thread. We have lots more valve body bolts than those posts. The six long bolts that hold on the mechatronic are show loose while the separation ones are shown torqued to spec.

 

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Hey all.
I just did the Sonnax Zip Kit on my 2013 LR4 with the ZF6 HP28. Per this thread, I, of course, ordered the wrong separator plate and had time to film this info because it was not obvious from my research I had an A063 vs A065. Hope it helps those who come after me.
A few other points about this job:
-Read the instructions 10x before you start.
-make sure the upper side is down when you separate the bodies
-do the o-rings for the solenoids one at a time and match them exactly to one from the 500 it comes with.
-also attaching a pic because the bolts are different than the excellent aston martin ZF6 blog posts form the LR4 pan swap thread. We have lots more valve body bolts than those posts. The six long bolts that hold on the mechatronic are show loose while the separation ones are shown torqued to spec.

Thank you immensely for this additional detail. I have all the parts ordered and to be honest am a bit frightened of this job. This information gave me a little more confidence to do this.
 

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Greetings all,

Over the past week, I had the zip kit transmission service done to my 2013 LR4(95.2k miles) with the ZF 6HP28 transmission and wanted to share the experience and details. I was inspired by @Fuji4 and his experiences with it, although his was done on the later 8sp trans that came on 14-16 models. The overwhelming bulk of the work ended up being done by my dad in his much-more-suitable garage but I was involved throughout the process and gathered all the parts and information for him. So, here goes:

Background: we did an ATF drain and pan/filter/fluid change about 6 months ago, switching to the newer two-piece pan and filter design. At the time, I bought the Atlantic British kit and the Febi Bilstein ATF that was compatible with the ZF fluid. The gasket that was supplied with the new pan started leaking soon thereafter and over time, the shifting started deteriorating slightly, with downshifts becoming harsher and upshifts happening too early. Every indication was pointing to either low fluid or improper pressure somewhere so, it was probably a good idea to do this job all over again, with a different/better gasket if possible. Also, we initially didn't replace the connector sleeve and drop the valve body and do the 4 tube seals + double square seal behind it, so now was a good time to maybe do that too? On top of that, I saw Fuji's post about the zip kit and why don't we try doing that too? While you're in there...Also since my dad loves disassembling things and putting them back together with no leftover parts, he was on board. So, off we went.

So as to not rush, we started Monday and finished today. Here is all the information fit to print:

Instructions: For the zip kit itself, we used the excellent instructions supplied. A great walkthrough and backup reference was https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/...-zip-kit-install-solenoid-replacement-192881/


Parts:
For the pan/gasket/filter kit, I ended up going to Rimmer Bros this time and ordered their DA2142 kit.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-LR007474BPKITEF

Fluid is here: https://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/LRN13754-MFG36.aspx

For the seals behind the valve body/mechatronic unit: There are 4 tube seals and a double square seal. I ordered this(it also includes the connector sleeve, which we replaced): https://www.thectsc.com/products/sealing-sleeve-and-adapter-kit-6hp26/28/32-242-50.html
The zip kit itself: for the lr4, you need the gen 2 zip kit. I ordered it from ebay and got this particular one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/222531774522
If that link expires, search for 'Sonnax ZF6 GEN2ZIP'. The LR4 has a 6HP28, so you need gen2. The LR3s will probably use GEN1, not sure.

Since the zip kit job will require separating two halves of the mechatronic unit, you will need a new separator plate. From all the research, it is POSSIBLE to reuse the old one if you are careful but to be safe, just order a new one. The catch is that you don't know what separator plate you will need until you take off the pan and read some numbers off of the valve body. For the LR4, there are two versions and this guide is invaluable: https://www.sonnax.com/tech_resources/179-zf6-valve-body-separator-plate-application-chart

Mine was the A063/B063. Since you won't know until you drop the pan, you don't want to order it and have it take 4 days to ship while your car is in pieces. Transtar came through for me - it came in a day from their warehouse in NJ. They carry both versions:
https://transend.us/search/catalog/guided?pageNumber=1&listType=1&description=separator plate&vhid=4a5294fa02dc&searchType=catalogGuided&priceDisplay=false

Finally, the trans pan gasket. I was going to take my chances with the gasket supplied in the Rimmer kit but @Daniel Atkinson came through just in time and pointed me to this instead: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/LUB-LLT-F6R80

I am so glad I ordered this because the flimsy rubber gasket that came with the Rimmer kit didn't look great. This gasket is awesome and doesn't need any sealant.

Otherwise, it is a matter of following the detailed steps laid out in the zip kit(cross referencing the walkthrough in the Jag forum) and taking your sweet time. Every single portion of the kit is in a separate bag, labeled clearly and the instructions are fantastic. FWIW, the torque values for the pan bolts are wrong - 14nm is too much, I ended up going with 10. With the lubegard gasket, it was plenty.

As far as the upgraded zip kit parts - the biggest noticeable upgrade seemed to be the end plugs for the mechatronic unit. The original ones were rather loose while the new ones had beefy o rings in them and had to be shoved in. There were other upgrades too, which are detailed in the zip kit writeup. I elected not to replace the solenoids themselves, but the solenoid orings were replaced with the zip kit.

After all was said and done, filled it with fluid as per official procedure and reset the adaptations using my IID tool. Then, off for a test drive!

There were a few immediately noticeable differences. It shifts noticeably faster now, as well as is in the proper gear much more often. Before, it would upshift early and then get confused when you wanted to accelerate, etc. Coming to a stop, downshifts are much smoother. Overall, it just seems much more buttoned down, executes quick two-gear downshifts on the highway, and seems like no more confusion+no more catching up to what you are trying to do. So far, I am very happy with the results. Also, no leaks so far!

Anyway, hope this helps. This forum is awesome and the collective knowledge we have takes us far, so happy to contribute as much as I can. If I left anything out or can clarify, feel free to ask.
I have read on another post...potentially another forum, that somebody did this job and just drove the car and that after a few days everything was kosher, without IID Adaptations. Can anyone confirm or deny that? I'll see about getting an appointment with my indie shop either way but they are typically weeks out.
 

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Greetings all,

Over the past week, I had the zip kit transmission service done to my 2013 LR4(95.2k miles) with the ZF 6HP28 transmission and wanted to share the experience and details. I was inspired by @Fuji4 and his experiences with it, although his was done on the later 8sp trans that came on 14-16 models. The overwhelming bulk of the work ended up being done by my dad in his much-more-suitable garage but I was involved throughout the process and gathered all the parts and information for him. So, here goes:

Background: we did an ATF drain and pan/filter/fluid change about 6 months ago, switching to the newer two-piece pan and filter design. At the time, I bought the Atlantic British kit and the Febi Bilstein ATF that was compatible with the ZF fluid. The gasket that was supplied with the new pan started leaking soon thereafter and over time, the shifting started deteriorating slightly, with downshifts becoming harsher and upshifts happening too early. Every indication was pointing to either low fluid or improper pressure somewhere so, it was probably a good idea to do this job all over again, with a different/better gasket if possible. Also, we initially didn't replace the connector sleeve and drop the valve body and do the 4 tube seals + double square seal behind it, so now was a good time to maybe do that too? On top of that, I saw Fuji's post about the zip kit and why don't we try doing that too? While you're in there...Also since my dad loves disassembling things and putting them back together with no leftover parts, he was on board. So, off we went.

So as to not rush, we started Monday and finished today. Here is all the information fit to print:

Instructions: For the zip kit itself, we used the excellent instructions supplied. A great walkthrough and backup reference was https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/...-zip-kit-install-solenoid-replacement-192881/


Parts:
For the pan/gasket/filter kit, I ended up going to Rimmer Bros this time and ordered their DA2142 kit.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-LR007474BPKITEF

Fluid is here: https://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/LRN13754-MFG36.aspx

For the seals behind the valve body/mechatronic unit: There are 4 tube seals and a double square seal. I ordered this(it also includes the connector sleeve, which we replaced): https://www.thectsc.com/products/sealing-sleeve-and-adapter-kit-6hp26/28/32-242-50.html
The zip kit itself: for the lr4, you need the gen 2 zip kit. I ordered it from ebay and got this particular one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/222531774522
If that link expires, search for 'Sonnax ZF6 GEN2ZIP'. The LR4 has a 6HP28, so you need gen2. The LR3s will probably use GEN1, not sure.

Since the zip kit job will require separating two halves of the mechatronic unit, you will need a new separator plate. From all the research, it is POSSIBLE to reuse the old one if you are careful but to be safe, just order a new one. The catch is that you don't know what separator plate you will need until you take off the pan and read some numbers off of the valve body. For the LR4, there are two versions and this guide is invaluable: https://www.sonnax.com/tech_resources/179-zf6-valve-body-separator-plate-application-chart

Mine was the A063/B063. Since you won't know until you drop the pan, you don't want to order it and have it take 4 days to ship while your car is in pieces. Transtar came through for me - it came in a day from their warehouse in NJ. They carry both versions:
https://transend.us/search/catalog/guided?pageNumber=1&listType=1&description=separator plate&vhid=4a5294fa02dc&searchType=catalogGuided&priceDisplay=false

Finally, the trans pan gasket. I was going to take my chances with the gasket supplied in the Rimmer kit but @Daniel Atkinson came through just in time and pointed me to this instead: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/LUB-LLT-F6R80

I am so glad I ordered this because the flimsy rubber gasket that came with the Rimmer kit didn't look great. This gasket is awesome and doesn't need any sealant.

Otherwise, it is a matter of following the detailed steps laid out in the zip kit(cross referencing the walkthrough in the Jag forum) and taking your sweet time. Every single portion of the kit is in a separate bag, labeled clearly and the instructions are fantastic. FWIW, the torque values for the pan bolts are wrong - 14nm is too much, I ended up going with 10. With the lubegard gasket, it was plenty.

As far as the upgraded zip kit parts - the biggest noticeable upgrade seemed to be the end plugs for the mechatronic unit. The original ones were rather loose while the new ones had beefy o rings in them and had to be shoved in. There were other upgrades too, which are detailed in the zip kit writeup. I elected not to replace the solenoids themselves, but the solenoid orings were replaced with the zip kit.

After all was said and done, filled it with fluid as per official procedure and reset the adaptations using my IID tool. Then, off for a test drive!

There were a few immediately noticeable differences. It shifts noticeably faster now, as well as is in the proper gear much more often. Before, it would upshift early and then get confused when you wanted to accelerate, etc. Coming to a stop, downshifts are much smoother. Overall, it just seems much more buttoned down, executes quick two-gear downshifts on the highway, and seems like no more confusion+no more catching up to what you are trying to do. So far, I am very happy with the results. Also, no leaks so far!

Anyway, hope this helps. This forum is awesome and the collective knowledge we have takes us far, so happy to contribute as much as I can. If I left anything out or can clarify, feel free to ask.
Thanks to your thread here I am going to bite the bullet and do this job. I have a question concerning a system flush. I have been lurking around another post that details how to fully evacuate the entire system and replace with new fluid. I am thinking that I should do that process first in the case any sediment is moved in the process. Part of the process is running the gear selector through positions. I don't want to push anything into the updated valve body or mess around with the gear selector after the kit is installed. I may be over thinking this, Any thoughts?
 

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Thank you immensely for this additional detail. I have all the parts ordered and to be honest am a bit frightened of this job. This information gave me a little more confidence to do this.
8 months later it still runs like a dream! Just take your time.
I did not do any adaptation reset or anything. It worked just fine after a few seconds of flushing the air out of the lines.
There isn't really any sediment, if you find that something is way wrong. Just burned fluid and some clutch material that collects on the magnet and the bottom of the pan.
 

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Thanks to your thread here I am going to bite the bullet and do this job. I have a question concerning a system flush. I have been lurking around another post that details how to fully evacuate the entire system and replace with new fluid. I am thinking that I should do that process first in the case any sediment is moved in the process. Part of the process is running the gear selector through positions. I don't want to push anything into the updated valve body or mess around with the gear selector after the kit is installed. I may be over thinking this, Any thoughts?
It's easy to overthink this job but it is rewarding and satisfying to do. I just found out a friend of mine did zip kits in 3 BMWs and everything was fine and he's kind of an idiot, lol.
 

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