2010 Land Rover National Rally in Moab - what LR3 owners need to know

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A few years ago in 2008 I made up a trail description and "what to expect at the Moab Rally" for folks who were new to the area and/or Solihul's unique way of running the National Rally. Here is a link that original discussion.

Note: As the author and former LR3 owner, my perspective is oriented towards "modern Rovers", with independent suspension. That is explained further below.

Info for newbies to the Land Rover National Rally

I have been attended the past two Rally’s in Moab, and have been separately a few times now, always in my Land Rover LR3. I don’t know much about the harder trails, but I will share what I know to help those who will be attending their first Rally or their first trip to Moab.

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How does the Rally work?
In the past, you visit the staging area and check in, where you receive a goodie bag and t-shirt, and there are maps posted of all the trail runs and so forth. The staging area is at the Old Spanish Trail Arena, just outside of town to the south, on the east side of the road. There are typically a lot of Solihul Society trail leaders hanging around (distinctively dressed) that you can ask for trail opinions & recommendations based on your rig. This is a good chance to meet others as well, and solicit their opinions regarding trails.

You do not “sign up” for a trail. You line up behind the trail leader, who are organized in a long line by the trail name they are leading. The first morning of the Rally you really want to get to the staging area early, around 7am. This is to line up in the trail you want to go on. If you are unsure, it’s another opportunity to get opinions about the trails before you line up and commit. Many of the trail groups depart the staging area around 7:30, so you have to be early. Don’t forget the time difference between SoCal time and Moab time. It will feel really early.

There is a mixer/cocktail party scheduled for Thursday night. this is a lot of fun. You get a few free drinks with your entry, and just about everybody is going to be there. Highly recommended. Wear your club t-shirt so folks know who you are!

The Friday night vendor show is worth attending. All the sponsors bring their toys for display. There is usually a few activities, like watching built up Rovers drive over a beat up old Jeep or something similar. There is an RTI ramp contest, and you can check out your flex. There is an outdoor BBQ put on by the trail leaders, and it's generally a good burger/hot dog, and the beer is cold and there are lots of people from all over the country to talk to. It's a good time.

The Saturday night banquet is usually at the Moab Valley Inn, and it's a long line for average food, but a great raffle. The raffle has TONS of stuff, a lot of it pretty darn good stuff, but it takes hours to give it all way. There are typically awards for events that occur during the Rally (like best rollover, etc...). If you are still in town, go. If not, you didn't miss much other than a good raffle.

About Moab:
There are Land Rovers everywhere during the Rally. It’s pretty cool. The Townspeople really seem to enjoy it and are very welcoming. I get my lunch materials, drinks, etc…at the City Market grocery store right downtown. It’s also where I get my gas, which seems to be a bit cheaper there than elsewhere. There is not a lot of things in Moab, it’s a very small town that literally closes in the winter. There are plenty of ATM’s, and there is a BofA. There is a McDonalds, but not a lot else. Everyone walks around the down town area at night. It’s quite lively and a lot of fun. Plenty of bars and restaurants. Moab Brewery is popular, but I could never figure out why, it offers mediocre food and closes early. If you have deep pockets, the only “fine dining” that I’m aware of is outside of town at Sorrel River Ranch, which is 5 star and first rate, and at least $800/night to stay there! There is a decent restaurant up hill on the cliff called Sunset Café or Grill or something like that. It’s not bad, but you might be better off hanging out at a local steakhouse/bar with all the lively atmosphere.

There is a iconic t-shirt shop right downtown that sells “dirty t-shirts” that have been stained Moab Red literally in the dirt. Lots of cool t-shirts for off roaders in there.
There are a TON of outdoor gear shops, but they are all really pricey, however, selection of quality items tends to be better than what you will find at REI, and they are very much PRO off roading and biking/hiking/climbing, so it’s way better than REI in that regards.

Where does everybody hang out? Just look at any parking lot. There’s bound to be a bunch of Rovers there, many of them being worked on late into the evening :)

Trail Run Etiquette
All your normal stuff that most clubs practice. TreadLightly, stay ON the trail, keep your spacing, don’t slow down the pack. More here.

Trail Requirements & Communications
Solihul Society requires a fire extinguisher and a CB radio and you will want a CB radio for the National Rally. Plan ahead, install it and test it before you get there. There is a Radio Shack in town if you need a last minute item. You also NEED a full size matching spare tire.

Airing down: Most people air down at the beginning of the first trail, and just stay aired down all week long, on the trail and around town. Drive slow in the pavement, keep your tire temperatures low and be rational on corners and you'll be fine.

What can I expect to happen to my vehicle?
Moab HATES bumpers. Expect to trash your rear bumper, and expect to rub a lot of fresh love on the front bumper too. Tires are almost irrelevant. The bigger the better of course, but street slicks will work nearly as good as the newest KM2’s. Slickrock sandstone offers phenomenal, gravity defying grip. Between the slickrock sections, you will encounter broken shale, or deep sand. Don’t even think about showing up with running boards on. Moab offers STEEP approach and departure angles, with SHARP breakover angles on sheer ledges. These ledges and steep angles are what will wreak havoc on your bumpers, but its so much fun, you really won’t care. Some trails are very rocky, such as Top of the World, which is not difficult, but offers a few ledges and some good larger than basketball sized rocks to scrape over. The traction is there, but you will rub things, I guarantee it. Having good underbody protection and steel bumpers is recommended.

What to do outside of the Rally?
I highly recommend the Tower Arch trail at Arches National Park. There are also trails to the south such as Elephant Hill, and an overlook that looks over the confluence of the three major rivers that have created all those magnificent canyons. This is the south end of Canyonlands National Park.

Another activity that is very popular is floating down the Colorado river in a kayak or rubber hulled boat. There are organized trips nearly every hour it seems like. There is also an interesting night show. It’s a flat bottomed barge that floats down the river, and they have set up colored lights down the canyons and you are told about the history of the region and the cliffs really come to life. That’s pretty cool.

The mountain biking is world class. They have an entire off road park just for mtn biking, but all the vehicle trails are open to bikes also, and you will see mtn bikers all over the place. They are in amazing shape!

Dinosaur hunting. There are several places where you can view dinosaur foot prints in the sand stone. The trail to Klondike Bluffs has quite a few. There are others. I'm not aware of too many cliff paintings in the immediate Moab area, but two hours south there are TONS of fascinating Anasazi ruins aplenty. Hotel Rock is one of the more famous ones.

Getting There (from SoCal)
From Southern California, the Drive to Moab is beautiful. Starting with the amazing ****** River gorge you ascend just east of Las Vegas towards St. George, then the spectacularly beautiful Fish Lake National Forest, then the stark and powerful Storybook Cliffs as you drop down in the Fremont junction/ Green River area. The final push to Moab is rather dry and flat, but as soon as you cross the Colorado, it’s spectacular again, and you are there! If you are driving straight through from SoCal, budget about 11 hours to get there. Many people opt to stay overnight in Cedar City. It’s another 5 hours or so to Moab once you hit Cedar City. If you are stopping in St. George instead, there are tons of major chain restaurants on the south side of the freeway. There is also a neat dinosaur museum on the northeast side of town that the kids might enjoy. It’s called “Dinosaur Discovery at Johnson Farm”.

On the way to Moab, you can stop by Zion and/or Bryce National Park. Zion is a little bit like Grand Canyon, except that you are on the bottom of the canyon, and can wade up the Narrows literally walking in the ****** River as far as you want to go. There are lots of great, short, but strenuous hikes in Zion. Bryce is not a very “active” park, but it is beautiful, and Ruby’s Inn (at the entrance to the park) has some of the best “home style” cooking on the planet. Seriously good food.

One of the prettiest drives in the world is on the 12 Highway. This will add a full day or more to your arrival in Moab, but it is so amazingly worth it. If you can add another day, exploring the slot canyons and Hole in the Rock trail in Escalante is epic. Best to be in good shape for this. I am 6’-7”, 300 lbs and it worked me good.
 

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Okay, moment of truth: MOAB TRAIL RECOMMENDATIONS
I drive an LR3, and wheel with Classics and DII’s regularly. I am a capable spotter, and know the abilities of these rigs very well. I feel comfortable making recommendations on Disco II’s, LR3’s and RRC’s. D90’s very widely in ability, primarily in tire size and locker config.

Solihull changed their trail rating system this year (2008), and have posted descriptions of what ratings 1 – 10 mean here.

These ratings are notably inaccurate for Modern Rovers (LR3/RRS/MkIII RR). I have found the trail rating system to be very difficult to use to judge actual trail difficulty. One of the best trails in Moab is the iconic Fins N Things. This trail is not very difficult, but it is 4. Hells Revenge is very similar, but slightly steeper, and has a few more entertaining, but optional obstacles, and gets a 6. If you liked Fins and Things, you will love Hells Revenge. Don’t sweat the 6 rating. However, Steelbender by all accounts, lives up to it’s name and is a very difficult 6, so traveler beware.

There are 31 trails this year (2008), (there are far more in the area that are possible), I have driven on some of them, and some of them only part way. I have heard about many of them, and have read the Charles Wells books so have some additional familiarity with them. I’ll provide a brief opinion where possible:

  • 3-D "3” – No knowledge
  • Behind the Rocks "7" – No knowledge
  • Black Flag "10" – Recommended for Rock Buggy types
  • Chicken Corners "3" – Easy, but not much margin for error
  • Cliffhanger "7" – Not for those with fear of heights. Very tippy and off camber, very mentally difficult. A couple of big ledges. Not recommend for Modern Rovers
  • Copper Ridge "3” – No knowledge
  • Dome Plateau "2" – reported to be easy
  • Fins 'n Things "4" – One of the best runs in Moab if you’ve never done it. HIGHLY recommended for every build of truck, from stock to locked.
  • Flat Iron Mesa "5" – I heard it’s a good trail, it’s on my list of things to try this year
  • Gold Bar Rim "5" – No knowledge
  • Golden Spike "7" – The Iconic Moab trail. Doable in any lifted rover, but you will rash your bumpers. This is the trail with the big crack in the rock that you cross at an angle. It’s been photo’d a zillon times.
  • Greenday "6" – With side trail options to make it an 8-10
  • Helldorado "10" – Not recommended for other than rock buggy types
  • Hell's Revenge "6” – One of the best runs in Moab if you’ve never done it. HIGHLY recommended for every build of truck, from stock to locked. A bit more mentally challenging than Fins, but not any more technically difficult. A very fun trail. One of the more famous runs.
  • Hellroaring Rim "3” – No knowledge
  • Hey Joe Canyon "3"– No knowledge
  • Kane Creek Canyon "6" – Numerous challenging river crossings (not deep, but steep wet banks as you climb out). Some years heavy brush growth will trash you paint, ask about current conditions. Fun trail if not too overgrown.
  • Metal Masher "6" – No knowledge
  • Minor Threat "10" – With options to make it 8-9
  • Moab Rim "7" – Difficult, supposed to be amazing, but has a high pucker factor (heights)
  • Poison Spider Mesa "5" – Another iconic run, has some interesting bits, but almost all slick rock and lots of fun. Can be done in a well driven Modern Rover
  • Porcupine Rim "5" – No knowledge
  • Pritchett Canyon "8-10" – Widely known around the world as one of the more difficult runs. Pretty much destined to roll over at least once on this trail. Jeep guys love it. Short wheel required.
  • Rose Garden Hill "5" – No knowledge
  • Secret Spire "2” – No knowledge
  • Seven Mile Rim "4" – well known for scenic beauty. I’ve never done it, but it’s on my To Do list this year.
  • Steelbender "6" – from what I’ve heard, it lives up to it’s name. lots of ledges.
  • Strike Ravine "5" – A couple of spots that you have to think but mainly scenic and worth the 2 hours to do it.
  • Tiptoe Behind the Rocks "5" – No first hand knowledge. Sounds interesting, I might try this one this year. From what I’ve read, a bit more expedition like trail instead of rock hound trail.
  • Top of the World "4” – Okay for any Modern Rover, or any 2” lifted Disco/Classic. Physically punishing trail. Very rocky, jarring trail, with not much to look at until you get to the top, then WOW, it really is the top of the world. The view is AMAZING, but the ride back is equally grueling. Plan on a long day. Trail head is an hour or more outside of town.
  • Wipe-Out Hill "5" – Trail is doable in an LR3, even the one alternate downhill obstacle, but most will chicken out, even the built up rigs.

For my photos of some of these trails, please check out these two links:
- http://blog.nextstepdesigns.com/?cat=22
- http://nwoods.smugmug.com/gallery/3315994_zfcfx#191480632_7Wpu4

There you have it. Veterans, please post up any corrections are alternate recommendations/opinions you may have.

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A Note About Modern Rovers
Modern Rover is an IFS suspension version, such as the LR3, Range Rover Sport, or MkIII Range Rover. I do not include Freelanders or LR2's because they do not have Low Range transfer cases nor adjustable suspension (off road height).

I call them Modern Rovers because their origin is with BMW and Ford, unlike the drivetrain from the Disco II and Disco 1, which are directly carried over from the Classic, and before that, the precursor to the Classic, which I can't recall the name of...starts with a V? (Velar?)

I single out Modern Rovers because their electrowizardry turns ordinary trail rating system into mush. Traditional trail ratings are all about lockers and tire size. An LR3 for example, can out climb just about any locked vehicle on the planet through it's phenomenal traction control, amazing 13" long travel suspension, and incredibly tight turning radius. However, it has very limited clearance. Which means obstacles that challenge even the stoutest of traditional solid axle rigs are a piece of cake for a Modern Rover, but if the rocks get too big, the Modern Rover will never have a chance due to limited clearance.

It makes picking trails that you are not familiar with very difficult when you own a Modern Rover. You really need to know why a trail has earned a given rating. If it's big rocks, bad news and don't bother. If it's anything else beside big rocks, pretty much no problem for a Modern Rover.

My point is not that the Modern Rover is "better", it's that their capabilities are very different, making the trail rating system almost useless. The nature of the obstacle is the deciding factor, not the difficulty level. In the past few years, the LR3's have mastered trails that "old school" participants thought the LR3 would never ever make it through.

However, I think there are dozens of trails you will never see an LR3 on, because of the size of rocks and ledges. Pritchard Canyon is one good example. An LR3 will fail big time there.
 

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nathan, thanks for posting this info! i was just thinking i needed to start a post about the upcoming rally to ask for advice. it will be cool to actually meet a few of the forum members face to face. my wife and i just booked our lodging in moab. we can't wait! we have been wheelin' with a lot of D2's and RRC's, but only twice with other LR3s. i am really looking forward to seeing some more LR3s in action when we get up there. there have been a few obstacles i haven't done as the D2 spotters were uncomfortable in spotting me. it is amazing the difference between an '05 LR3 and an '04 D2. totally different trucks.
 

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there have been a few obstacles i haven't done as the D2 spotters were uncomfortable in spotting me. it is amazing the difference between an '05 LR3 and an '04 D2. totally different trucks.

Amen brother. Good news is that Solihul actually trains its trail leaders, often having Bill Burke and others provide dedicated training prior to the event, and they pre-run all the trails. There are a few, or at least one, Solihul Society trailer leaders that wheel the LR3 and know how to spot for it's unique lines. David Lane in particular knows the LR3 as well as anyone and will be an excellent spotter for you.

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I think, I will attend this year, although for me , it is a little more than 11 hours drive, since I have 2200 miles to travel.Nathan, any recommendations on hotels down there , I understand , that it won't be cheap,but nor my entire trip will...just curious about accommodations..Thanks
 

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Moab Valley Inn is popular, but not that great. I prefer the Super8 hotels, there are two in town, both adequate. The rally starts early each morning, so B&B options aren't all that practical, you'll miss out in the breakfasts most likely. If money is no problem, there is a ranch along the River that is VERY nice, but $700 a night.....
 

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got you beat...17 hours for us. that part of the trip is going to blow.
 

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I think, I will attend this year, although for me , it is a little more than 11 hours drive, since I have 2200 miles to travel.Nathan, any recommendations on hotels down there , I understand , that it won't be cheap,but nor my entire trip will...just curious about accommodations..Thanks
You can do 2200 miles in 11 hours? Holy $%&^! What the hell do you have under the hood of that thing? On my best 14 hour driving day ever, I did just over 800 miles.

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Well,let,s just say that I have a permission to drive FAST...,but jokes aside , by writing "little more" , I had a LOT more on my mind...
 

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