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    Another Defender hint?

    I guess. Different strokes for different folks. IMHO, if it didn't look like a KIA Soul and cost a ridiculous amount of money, that'd be another story. My guess is most people who are buying this are looking for cool points as this is really a cheap looking imitation of the Defender. Not saying...
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    Another Defender hint?

    :hahaha:
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    Another Defender hint?

    Well, he and I agree on the new JLR version of the Defender. I still can't believe this is what JLR came up with? It's like they were doing all they could to tank the brand. It's way overpriced. Shouldn't/wouldn't appeal to most LR4 or Defender owners and looks like an older KIA Soul. Who, in...
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    It's here, now what?

    Maybe while they are at it, they can make it look like this: https://ineosgrenadier.com/
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    Any experience with aftermarket LR4 mudflaps ?

    I also bought knock offs on ebay for front and rear. Look spot on and have had them on with no issues for five years now.
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    LR4 vs Defender

    ...that doesn't cost nearly $100k and is a total joke from a quality and design perspective. Yes, i totally agree with you. But that eliminates JLR's new Defender doesn't it? So, now you are left with Jeep. Or wait a few years with your LR4 and hope this pans out. What's the worst that happens...
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    LR4 vs Defender

    you have some valid points. But let's be fair, not many people are daily driving the old defender without serious suspension modes. It wasn't even and option for about 99% of the use cases. This will likely be more like my f350 which I comfortably daily drive.
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    LR4 vs Defender

    As long as it doesn't have one of those dumb@$$ BMW shifters. Ugh. I heard they have a BMW tech school for owners...#missingthefrickinboat
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    LR4 vs Defender

    Yeah, not buying that statement about Soccer moms. How many Brits to you think would line up for this? More than you can count after their beloved Land Rovers were carted off to India. I bet they have more interest in a day worldwide than the 25k planned run. 25k for a vehicle like this is a...
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    LR4 vs Defender

    already wondering about the LS swap. :rock:
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    LR4 vs Defender

    YOU can go register here https://ineosgrenadier.com/ and secure your spot to preorder should you desire. Guessing it will be something like Tesla does when they get close to production.
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    LR4 vs Defender

    yep, yep, yep and yep to the last few posts. I am not a handraiser for the current jlr revised defender, but i certainly am for this. A real defender with enough manners to daily drive. Where do i sign.
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    LR4 vs Defender

    I guess those Brits want their Land Rover back. And by the looks of things, they might get it one way or another. This is probably a neat opportunity to see what Jeep would look like as a stand alone brand.
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    LR4 vs Defender

    Did you see the poll at the end of the car and driver article asking which you'd rather have? Pretty telling.
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    LR4 vs Defender

    Rut Roh Raggy https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/30/ineos-grenadier-4x4-revealed/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33013259/ineos-grenadier-suv-revealed/ check out the poll at the end of the C&D Article
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    It's here, now what?

    wondering where the disclaimer is on this post? :aetsch: https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/advertising-and-disclaimers/
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    Another Defender hint?

    The folks at JLR our out of their minds. They have way, way, way overplayed their nostalgia hand with the Defender. They have underwhelmed and over priced. Very few LR4 lux owners would move to one of these. It's just a different experience. We took wifes LR4 Lux on our first long road trip...
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    LR4 vs Defender

    trippin' is an understatement. They are in a whole different universe.
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    Another Defender hint?

    hands down the most annoying persons i've seen this year and that says a lot. I made it about 60 secs b4 all the hand waving and silly run on syllables forced me to end the pain. Fingernails on chalkboard that dude is
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    It's here, now what?

    Yeah, JLR really f''d up o this one. I've sat in them and they look and feel cheap. The interior feels like an early model KIA Soul. Cheap looking and cheap feeling. If you are rolling an LR4 right now, there is no way you are going to think this is a comparable vehicle. The price they are...
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    Well crap!

    Rob, what did you end up doing here? Any updates on your situation?
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    Another Defender hint?

    For the life of me, I can't figure out why Land Rover would make something look so cheap and charge so much. Everything on this looks cheap. What a POS. Whoever was in charge of this should be fired immediately. At least they kept to the long land rover heritage of extremely poor, to the point...
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    2015 LR4 CPO Lemon

    IDK, disconnect the stop start battery? Or push the button to turn it off to see if you can isolate. Seems like it is happening after a stop? That can't be a coincidence.
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    Well crap!

    Yeah, agree. I am going to look up the labor hours on the job. If you are doing the back pipes, my understanding is that the fronts are a give me. At this price it looks like they are just quoting each jobs labor hours separately and adding them together. Definitely calling and indy today.
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    Well crap!

    quote from my dealer to replace front and rear coolant crossover parts. geez. they just don't get it. Customer No. Hi David, Attached is the estimate you requested for upper and lower coolant outlet pipes to be replaced...

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